10 Best CRM for Retail of 2026
By the TopToolAdvisor research desk · Updated November 11, 2026 · Next review December 26, 2026 · 10 products scored
Our pick in brief
Lightspeed Retail ranks first because customer accounts, purchase history, a tiered loyalty program and reports on top and dormant shoppers all live in the POS, with loyalty included from the Core plan. Square for Retail is close behind and is the cheapest start, since its free plan builds profiles on every sale and Square Plus adds loyalty for $49 per location. Klaviyo is the pick when repeat sales come from email and SMS, and Shopify POS fits stores that already sell on Shopify. HubSpot CRM and Zoho CRM suit retailers who need a general CRM for sales or service work, and Freshsales fits high-ticket stores that sell through follow-ups. Salesforce Commerce Cloud, Microsoft Dynamics 365 Commerce and Capillary are enterprise options for chains and large loyalty programs.
Quick answer
Lightspeed Retail is the best CRM for retail in 2026 because its POS ties a loyalty program with unlimited VIP tiers to every customer account, with loyalty included from the Core plan at 149 USD a month. Square for Retail is the best free option: its $0 plan builds a customer profile with purchase history on every sale, and Square Plus adds loyalty for $49 per location a month. Retailers who sell mostly by email and SMS should pick Klaviyo (from $20 a month), and chains with 25 or more stores should look at Salesforce Commerce Cloud or Dynamics 365 Commerce; prices checked as of November 2026.
This list is for store owners and retail marketing teams who want customer profiles, loyalty rewards and purchase history in one place so they can sell again to the same people. We compared documented features and published prices for ten tools: retail POS systems with built-in customer records, marketing and general CRMs that pull in order data, enterprise commerce suites and a dedicated loyalty platform. For each one we checked where purchase history comes from, whether loyalty is built in or an add-on, and which plan you need for both. Scores cover features, ease of use and value, and the overall score is a weighted average of the three. Prices come from each vendor's own pricing page, checked in November 2026.
By the numbers
- 28.51%In 2025, 28.51% of enterprises in the EU with 10 or more employees used customer relationship management (CRM) software, according to Eurostat.Source: Eurostat
- 65.43%Among large EU enterprises (250 or more employees), 65.43% used CRM software in 2025, more than two and a half times the small business rate.Source: Eurostat
- 55.79%Finland had the highest CRM adoption in the EU in 2025, with 55.79% of enterprises using CRM software, followed by the Netherlands at 54.12%.Source: Eurostat
- 20.0%Salesforce held a 20.0% share of the worldwide CRM market in 2025, according to IDC data announced by Salesforce.Source: IDC
- 20%Cash made up around 20% of in-person payments by US consumers in 2025.Source: Federal Reserve Financial Services
Shortlist scores
- 1Lightspeed RetailIndependent and multi-store retailers who want loyalty tied to the POS8.8
- 2Square for RetailSmall retailers who want customer profiles without a monthly fee8.7
- 3KlaviyoRetailers whose repeat sales come from email and SMS8.5
- 4Shopify POSRetailers selling both in store and on a Shopify website8.5
- 5HubSpot CRMRetailers with sales, marketing and service teams sharing one CRM8.4
- 6Zoho CRMRetailers who want a custom CRM for a small budget8.1
- 7FreshsalesRetailers with a small team selling high-value items or to trade accounts7.8
- 8Salesforce Commerce CloudLarge retail chains standardizing on Salesforce7.6
- 9Microsoft Dynamics 365 CommerceEnterprise retailers running Microsoft back-office systems7.5
- 10Capillary TechnologiesLarge retailers running complex loyalty programs7.2
How the scores work
Each product is rated out of 10 on the same three criteria, then ranked by the weighted total. Scores compare documented features and published prices, not hands-on testing.
- 35%Features
- 35%Ease of use
- 30%Value
No. 1, our pick
Lightspeed RetailA retail POS with customer accounts, a built-in loyalty program and customer reports, plus optional Advanced Marketing for segments and email flows.
8.8of 10Best for Independent and multi-store retailers who want loyalty tied to the POS
- Features
- 9.2
- Ease of use
- 8.7
- Value
- 8.4
Price
Basic from 89 USD a month with one register; Core, which adds in-store and online loyalty, is 149 USD and Plus is 289 USD a month
Quoted from the Lightspeed Retail pricing page on November 11, 2026:
Basic Designed for essential day-to-day needs for independent retailers. 89 USD /mo
Lightspeed Retail keeps the customer record inside the point of sale, which is where most retail purchase history starts. Its loyalty page describes a built-in program connected to customer accounts: shoppers enroll at checkout, points are tracked digitally, and staff can set points per product or run double and triple point events. Retailers can add VIP tiers, and Lightspeed says there is no limit to how many tiers you create. Reporting covers top spenders, new customers and dormant shoppers, which is the list most stores need for win-back offers. The pricing table is the main caveat: Basic at 89 USD a month does not include in-store and online loyalty, so the plan that fits this use case is Core at 149 USD a month. Segments, birthday perks and behavior-based email flows sit in Lightspeed Advanced Marketing, a separate product. For a store that wants one system for checkout, inventory and repeat customers, it is the most complete option here.
Strengths
- +Customers enroll in loyalty right at the register and earn points automatically
- +The same loyalty program works in store and online
- +24/7 chat support on every plan, per the pricing table
Drawbacks
- −In-store and online loyalty is not included in Basic; it starts on Core at 149 USD a month
- −Email and SMS automation needs the separate Advanced Marketing product
- −Extra locations and registers raise the monthly price
- Basic
- 89 USD a month, 1 register
- Core (adds loyalty)
- 149 USD a month
- Plus
- 289 USD a month
- Card-present rate
- 1.5% with Lightspeed Payments
No. 2
Square for RetailA retail POS whose free Customer Directory creates a profile on every sale, with Square Loyalty and marketing on paid plans.
8.7of 10Best for Small retailers who want customer profiles without a monthly fee
- Features
- 8.2
- Ease of use
- 9.2
- Value
- 8.8
Price
Free plan at $0 a month; Square Plus is $49 per location per month and Premium is $149 per location per month, plus processing fees
Quoted from the Square for Retail pricing page on November 11, 2026:
With Square Plus and Square Premium, the monthly fee applies to each location you run. $0/mo. per location $49/mo. per location $149/mo. per location
Square for Retail is the cheapest way to start keeping real customer records. Square's plan comparison says the Customer Directory creates customer profiles automatically every time a sale is made, tracks purchase history and lets you sort customers with preset filters, and that row has no paid-plan restriction. Smart groups split customers into marketing subscribers, loyalty participants and lapsed customers, and bigger operators get bulk import, export, merging and open APIs. Square Loyalty lets shoppers earn points per visit, per amount spent, per item or by category, including cash sales, from the POS, invoices or a Square Online site. The limit is the plan line: the comparison table marks the loyalty program and text marketing as not included in Square Free, so a store that wants rewards moves to Square Plus at $49 per location per month. Square offers a 30-day free trial of Loyalty. For a single shop, that is still a low price for profiles, rewards and texting in one place.
Strengths
- +The $0 plan already builds a customer list with purchase history
- +Loyalty points work across Square POS, Square Invoices and Square Online
- +Square Plus includes 500 texts a month, then 3 cents per text
Drawbacks
- −The plan comparison marks the loyalty program as not included in Square Free
- −Text message marketing is not available on Square Free
- −Monthly fees on Plus and Premium apply to each location
- Free plan
- $0 per location, customer directory included
- Square Plus
- $49 per location per month
- Square Premium
- $149 per location per month
- Square Loyalty trial
- 30 days
No. 3
KlaviyoA B2C CRM that combines customer profiles, email, SMS, analytics and a helpdesk for retail and ecommerce brands.
8.5of 10Best for Retailers whose repeat sales come from email and SMS
- Features
- 8.9
- Ease of use
- 8.3
- Value
- 8.4
Price
Free plan for 250 active profiles and 500 emails a month; Email plan from $20 a month for 500 active profiles; price rises with profile count
Quoted from the Klaviyo pricing page on November 11, 2026:
Email Grow with email. Automate campaigns and build subscribers. $20 /month
Klaviyo describes itself as a B2C CRM, and for retailers the pitch is a single customer profile that drives marketing, service and analytics. The retail solutions page lists 60+ retail-specific flows and segments for high-intent shoppers, repeat buyers and churn risks, which maps directly to repeat-sales work. Data comes in through 400+ integrations such as Shopify and WooCommerce. The free plan covers 250 active profiles and 500 emails a month and already bundles a Customer Hub, a Customer Agent with 10 resolutions and a helpdesk with 10 tickets. The Email plan starts at $20 a month for 500 active profiles and 5,000 emails. Two caveats matter for stores: pricing follows active profiles, so a long list of past buyers raises the bill, and the retail page notes the service features are a public beta for Shopify stores only. Klaviyo does not run your checkout, so store purchase data has to come from a connected POS or ecommerce platform.
Strengths
- +Free plan covers 250 active profiles and 500 emails a month
- +Email plan includes 5,000 emails a month for 500 active profiles
- +Marketing, service and analytics share one customer profile
Drawbacks
- −Price is set by active profiles, so large customer lists cost more
- −Free and Email plans include only $5 of mobile messages a month
- −Klaviyo's service features are in public beta and Shopify only, per its retail page
- Free plan
- 250 active profiles, 500 emails a month
- Email plan
- $20 a month for 500 active profiles
- Integrations
- 400+
- Retail flows
- 60+
No. 4
Shopify POSShopify's point of sale, with simple customer profiles on every paid plan and rich profiles, loyalty insights and clienteling on POS Pro.
8.5of 10Best for Retailers selling both in store and on a Shopify website
- Features
- 8.8
- Ease of use
- 8.6
- Value
- 7.9
Price
See vendor pricing (USD check pending); POS Pro is an add-on per retail location
We could not confirm a US price yet. Check the Shopify POS pricing page.
Shopify POS suits retailers whose online store already runs on Shopify, because in-store and online orders land on the same customer record. Every paid Shopify plan includes casual in-person selling with simple customer profiles. The POS Pro add-on, billed per retail location, is where the CRM features sit: Shopify says it captures rich customer data in store and online and shows lifetime value reporting and loyalty insights directly in the POS, with clienteling tools to track customer preferences. POS Pro also adds unlimited staff logins, inventory counts, purchase orders, returns at any location and omnichannel selling such as buy online, pick up in store. Shopify's own pages describe loyalty insights rather than a points engine, so retailers usually add a loyalty app. The pricing page served us local currency, so the USD price check is pending. Expect to pay for both a Shopify plan and POS Pro per store.
Strengths
- +Online and in-store purchases sit on one customer profile
- +Lifetime value reporting is available directly in the POS on POS Pro
- +Every paid Shopify plan includes in-person selling at no extra cost
Drawbacks
- −Rich customer profiles and loyalty insights need the POS Pro add-on per location
- −Loyalty points programs come from apps rather than a built-in points engine
- −We could not confirm USD prices from our location
- Customer profiles
- Simple on every paid plan, rich on POS Pro
- POS Pro
- Add-on per retail location
- Clienteling
- POS Pro
- Sign-up
- Free account, no credit card required
No. 5
HubSpot CRMA general CRM with a free tier and an official Shopify data sync that brings customers, orders and abandoned checkouts into contact records.
8.4of 10Best for Retailers with sales, marketing and service teams sharing one CRM
- Features
- 8.4
- Ease of use
- 8.4
- Value
- 8.4
Price
Free CRM; Starter from $15 per seat per month, Professional from $50 per seat per month
Quoted from the HubSpot CRM pricing page on November 11, 2026:
Starter Starts at $15/month per seat*
HubSpot CRM fits retailers who already think of customers as contacts that marketing, sales and service teams all touch. The free tier includes contact management, deal pipelines, CRM import and a reporting dashboard, and Starter costs $15 per seat per month with permission sets and multiple currencies. For purchase history, HubSpot's knowledge base documents the Shopify Data Sync: Shopify customers and HubSpot contacts sync both ways, and orders and abandoned checkouts flow into HubSpot, where each order links to a product and a contact. HubSpot says you can then build segments from cart or order data for marketing. The gaps are retail specific. HubSpot has no point of sale and no points program, so loyalty lives in another tool, and the Shopify sync skips metafields and product variants. Pick it when the store is one part of a business that also runs B2B sales, wholesale accounts or a service desk.
Strengths
- +The free tier is enough to start storing customer and order records
- +Order records link to the contact, product and cart in HubSpot
- +Upgrade from free without migrating data
Drawbacks
- −No built-in POS or loyalty program; store data comes from integrations
- −Shopify metafields and product variants do not sync
- −Contact scoring and duplicate management need Professional at $50 per seat
- Free plan
- Yes
- Starter
- From $15 per seat per month
- Professional
- From $50 per seat per month
- Shopify sync
- Contacts, companies, products, orders, carts
No. 6
Zoho CRMA configurable CRM with a free edition for 3 users and inventory management from the Professional edition.
8.1of 10Best for Retailers who want a custom CRM for a small budget
- Features
- 8.0
- Ease of use
- 7.9
- Value
- 8.6
Price
See vendor pricing (USD check pending); free edition for 3 users
We could not confirm a US price yet. Check the Zoho CRM pricing page.
Zoho CRM is a general CRM that a retailer can shape around customer records, orders and products. The free edition covers 3 users with leads, deals, workflows, reports and a mobile app, which is enough for a small store to start logging customers. Standard adds workflows, assignment rules, cadences, AI agents, reports and sales forecasting. Professional adds inventory management and CPQ, so products and quotes live next to customer records, and Enterprise adds multistep customer flow automation, territory management and customer portals. Zoho lists free onboarding and says annual plans save up to 34%. What it lacks for retail is the counter: there is no point of sale and no points program, so purchase history has to come from a POS or ecommerce integration. The pricing page served us euro prices, so the USD check is pending. It fits retailers with a technical owner who wants a custom CRM rather than a ready-made retail one.
Strengths
- +Free for up to 3 users with no time limit
- +Inventory management is built into Professional, not a separate app
- +Free onboarding listed on the pricing page
Drawbacks
- −No point of sale or built-in loyalty program; store sales need an integration
- −Multistep customer flow automation needs Enterprise
- −We could not confirm USD prices from our location
- Free edition
- Up to 3 users
- Editions
- Standard, Professional, Enterprise, Ultimate
- Annual discount
- Up to 34%
- Inventory management
- Professional and up
No. 7
FreshsalesFreshworks' sales CRM with contact lifecycle stages, built-in chat, email and phone, and a low entry price.
7.8of 10Best for Retailers with a small team selling high-value items or to trade accounts
- Features
- 7.0
- Ease of use
- 8.3
- Value
- 8.3
Price
Growth from $9 per user per month billed annually; Pro $39 and Enterprise $59 per user per month
Quoted from the Freshsales pricing page on November 11, 2026:
$9 /user/month, billed annually
Freshsales is a sales CRM, so it suits retailers whose customer work looks like selling: furniture, appliance or jewelry stores that follow up on quotes, or shops with trade accounts. Growth costs $9 per user per month billed annually and includes a Kanban view, contact lifecycle stages, chat, email and phone, email templates, custom fields and basic workflows. Pro at $39 adds contact scoring, deal insights, sales sequences and territory management, and Enterprise at $59 adds forecasting insights, custom modules and audit logs. Freshworks offers a 21-day trial of the full CRM. For everyday repeat shoppers it is a weaker fit than the POS-based tools on this list: there is no point of sale, no loyalty program and no retail purchase-history feed out of the box. Pick it when the store's revenue depends on a few staff following up on considered purchases rather than on thousands of small transactions.
Strengths
- +Growth costs $9 per user per month billed annually
- +21-day trial of the full CRM
- +Freshworks says it is trusted by 74,000+ businesses
Drawbacks
- −No POS, loyalty program or purchase-history import built for retail
- −Contact scoring needs Pro at $39 per user
- −Built around deals and pipelines rather than repeat shoppers
- Growth
- $9 per user per month, billed annually
- Pro
- $39 per user per month, billed annually
- Enterprise
- $59 per user per month, billed annually
- Trial
- 21 days
No. 8
Salesforce Commerce CloudSalesforce's commerce suite for B2C storefronts, order management and in-store point of sale with clienteling.
7.6of 10Best for Large retail chains standardizing on Salesforce
- Features
- 9.2
- Ease of use
- 6.9
- Value
- 6.4
Price
See vendor pricing (USD check pending); every Commerce edition is listed as contact for pricing
We could not confirm a US price yet. Check the Salesforce Commerce Cloud pricing page.
Salesforce Commerce Cloud is aimed at retailers large enough to treat the CRM, the website and the store as one data project. The Commerce pricing page lists Commerce Cloud B2C Premium with 100 sites and 3,500 price books, full order management, and personalization with Data Cloud segments. Retail Cloud Point-of-Sale adds a modern POS with clienteling, endless aisle and inventory management, and it starts at 25 stores. Salesforce Order Management Growth covers omni-channel inventory for up to 50 locations. Together they give store associates a customer view that includes online orders, which is the core of clienteling. The tradeoffs are cost and effort: every edition on the pricing page is contact for pricing, and the 25-store starting point rules out small retailers. Loyalty programs are a separate Salesforce product. Choose it if your company already runs Salesforce for service or marketing and has the budget for an implementation partner.
Strengths
- +Store, online and order data sit on the Salesforce platform
- +Clienteling is part of Retail Cloud Point-of-Sale
- +Data Cloud segments drive personalization across channels
Drawbacks
- −Every edition is contact for pricing
- −Retail Cloud Point-of-Sale starts at 25 stores
- −Implementation usually needs a partner or in-house Salesforce team
- B2C Premium
- 100 sites, 3,500 price books
- Retail Cloud POS
- Starting at 25 stores
- Order Management Growth
- Up to 50 locations
- Pricing
- Contact for pricing
Visit salesforce.com|See the Salesforce Commerce Cloud profile
No. 9
Microsoft Dynamics 365 CommerceMicrosoft's omnichannel retail platform with point of sale, a single customer view and native links to Dynamics 365 Customer Insights.
7.5of 10Best for Enterprise retailers running Microsoft back-office systems
- Features
- 9.0
- Ease of use
- 6.8
- Value
- 6.6
Price
From $210 per user per month paid yearly; e-commerce add-on $4,000 per tenant per month
Quoted from the Microsoft Dynamics 365 Commerce pricing page on November 11, 2026:
Dynamics 365 Commerce Includes core capabilities to manage omnichannel retail operations. $210.00 user/month, paid yearly
Dynamics 365 Commerce is Microsoft's platform for omnichannel retail, and its customer features are aimed at large store networks. Microsoft says it builds a single view of customer interactions and orders across physical and digital storefronts, and that it helps store employees with upsell and cross-sell recommendations, insights and loyalty programs. Point of sale runs in the cloud or at the edge, promotions and discounts are managed centrally, and segmentation on customer data feeds targeted campaigns. It has native support for Dynamics 365 Customer Insights, Sales and Customer Service, which matters if marketing and service already run on Microsoft. Cost is the barrier: the base license is $210 per user per month paid yearly, the e-commerce add-on is $4,000 per tenant per month and the headless add-on is $4,200. Microsoft adds that listed prices are informational and can vary by currency and region. This is a platform for retailers with an IT team and a Microsoft partner, not for a single shop.
Strengths
- +Store staff get loyalty, recommendations and customer insights in one platform
- +Segments from customer data drive targeted campaigns
- +Native Adyen integration for payments
Drawbacks
- −$210 per user per month before add-ons
- −E-commerce add-on costs $4,000 per tenant per month
- −Microsoft notes prices may differ by currency and region
- Commerce
- $210 per user per month, paid yearly
- E-commerce add-on
- $4,000 per tenant per month
- Headless add-on
- $4,200 per tenant per month
- Deployment
- Cloud, on-premises or edge
Visit microsoft.com|See the Microsoft Dynamics 365 Commerce profile
No. 10
Capillary TechnologiesAn enterprise loyalty and customer engagement platform with Loyalty+, Engage+, Insights+ and CDP+ products, run as managed SaaS.
7.2of 10Best for Large retailers running complex loyalty programs
- Features
- 8.6
- Ease of use
- 6.5
- Value
- 6.3
Price
See vendor pricing (USD check pending); sold by quote
We could not confirm a US price yet. Check the Capillary Technologies pricing page.
Capillary Technologies is the specialist on this list: it sells loyalty and customer engagement software to large brands rather than a general CRM. Its product line covers Loyalty+, Engage+, Insights+, CDP+ and Rewards+, and its loyalty guide describes the functions a retailer would expect: member enrollment and profiles, points accrual, redemption and expiry, tier rules, a reward catalog and a rules engine, plus reporting. Capillary says its platform integrates with CRM, POS, eCommerce and CDP systems and processes transactions in real time, and that it runs on a managed SaaS model that includes program operations. It reports working with 415+ enterprise brands, including 20+ Fortune 500 companies. Capillary is open about the main limit for this category: it calls a loyalty platform complementary to a CRM, not a substitute, so most retailers run it next to Salesforce, Microsoft or another CRM. Prices are not published. Choose it when loyalty is a major revenue program, not a feature.
Strengths
- +Built specifically for loyalty at enterprise scale
- +Capillary says it works with 415+ enterprise brands, including 20+ Fortune 500 companies
- +Retail is one of its listed industries
Drawbacks
- −No published prices
- −Capillary itself says a loyalty platform complements a CRM rather than replacing it
- −Aimed at enterprise brands, not single stores
- Products
- Loyalty+, Engage+, Insights+, CDP+, Rewards+
- Customers
- 415+ enterprise brands
- Delivery
- Managed SaaS
- Pricing
- On request
Visit capillarytech.com|See the Capillary Technologies profile
What to check before you buy
Start where the sale happens
Retail purchase history is created at the register and in the online checkout. POS-based options like Lightspeed Retail, Square for Retail and Shopify POS record it automatically. General CRMs like HubSpot, Zoho CRM and Freshsales need an integration to receive orders, so check what that integration syncs before you buy.
Check which plan includes loyalty
Loyalty is often a plan or add-on decision. Lightspeed includes in-store and online loyalty from Core at 149 USD a month, not on Basic. Square's plan comparison marks loyalty as not included in Square Free, so it starts with Square Plus at $49 per location. Shopify POS Pro shows loyalty insights, while points programs usually come from apps.
Count locations, seats and profiles
Retail CRM pricing scales in different ways. Square and Shopify charge per location, HubSpot, Freshsales and Dynamics 365 charge per user, and Klaviyo charges by active profiles. Model the bill at your real store count, staff count and customer list size.
Plan how you will reach repeat customers
A profile only drives repeat sales if you can message it. Square Plus includes 500 texts a month, Klaviyo runs email and SMS flows from purchase segments, and Lightspeed sends email and SMS through Advanced Marketing. If the tool you pick has no messaging, budget for one that does.
Size enterprise platforms to your store count
Salesforce Retail Cloud Point-of-Sale starts at 25 stores and is quote only, Dynamics 365 Commerce starts at $210 per user per month, and Capillary does not publish prices. These make sense for chains with an IT team, not for a single shop.
Common questions
- What is the best CRM for retail?
- Lightspeed Retail is the best CRM for most retail stores in 2026. Its POS links a loyalty program with unlimited VIP tiers to each customer account and reports on top spenders and dormant shoppers, with loyalty included from the Core plan at 149 USD a month.
- What is the best free CRM for a retail store?
- Square for Retail is the best free option. Its $0 plan creates a customer profile with purchase history every time a sale is made; loyalty starts on Square Plus at $49 per location per month. HubSpot CRM and Zoho CRM also have free tiers, but neither includes a point of sale.
- Which retail CRM includes a loyalty program?
- Lightspeed Retail and Square for Retail both include loyalty programs on paid plans. Lightspeed includes in-store and online loyalty from Core at 149 USD a month, and Square Loyalty lets shoppers earn points per visit, amount spent, item or category, with a 30-day free trial.
- How much does a CRM for retail cost?
- Retail CRMs range from $0 to several thousand dollars a month. Square for Retail starts free, Freshsales Growth costs $9 per user per month billed annually, Klaviyo starts at $20 a month and Lightspeed Retail at 89 USD a month, while Dynamics 365 Commerce costs $210 per user per month paid yearly.
- Do I need a CRM if my POS already stores customer data?
- Not always. Lightspeed, Square and Shopify POS already keep customer profiles and purchase history, which covers most small stores. A separate CRM such as HubSpot or Zoho CRM helps when you also run B2B sales, wholesale accounts or a service team.
- What CRM do large retail chains use?
- Large chains usually choose Salesforce Commerce Cloud, Microsoft Dynamics 365 Commerce or a loyalty specialist such as Capillary. Salesforce Retail Cloud Point-of-Sale starts at 25 stores and is quote only, and Dynamics 365 Commerce lists $210 per user per month paid yearly.
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